The Hartlib Papers

Title:Copy Letter In Hand ?, John Dury To Andrew Ramsay & Alexander Henderson
Dating:19 June 1643
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[another hand:] Durie
[scribe:]
                      The inscription.
 Copia To his Rreverend[altered] and Loving Bretheren in
         Christ Mr[H capitalises] Andrew Ramsay and
        Mr[H capitalises] Alexander Hinderson Faithfull
           Ministers[H capitalises] of the Gospell of the
             Kirke of Edenburg or in their absence
         to any of their Fellow Ministers[H capitalises]
         of the Presbyterie[H capitalises] at Edinburg.
Dated Hamburg the 9/19 of
    Iune 1643
Reuerend & Loving[H capitalises] Bretheren in Christ[H capitalises] As I am brought hither by a providence beyond[H? alters] my expectation, so many things are fallen out in my waye wherin I see a Speciall hand of God which I am perswaded doth lead me to advance his glorye according to the sinceritie of my heart in the right[H alters] vse[H alters] of the occasions which he doth offer unto mee for the joyning of holy Mens[H alters] endeavours towards the performance of good[H alters] workes of a publike nature. Now[H capitalises] amoungst other[H alters from either?] things I reckon this[H? alters from thes] bearer one[H alters] who did present himself[H alters] unto me, and his Servise towards yow; as if by him God hath Called[H alters from galled] upon me to informe yow of the present estate circumstances of my negotiation in these [catchword: parts]
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parts<H?: ;> therfore I thought good to make use of his Service[altered] to acquaint[H alters] yow[altered] that the Lutherans[H alters] of these parts are more inclinable to moderation and willing to treat of the meanes of reconciliation with us then formerly hath <H: they haue> beene. The Magistrate[H capitalises] doth give authoritie to some of their Divines[H capitalises] to Correspond[H capitalises] with other Lutherane[H capitalises] neigbour Churches and Vniversities[H alters from universities] to ripen and prepare the wayes of accomodation; & the cheife of the [ministrye?] <H: Ministery>, here doth consent unto a motion which hath beene made, namely[altered from namly] that before all other Treaties[H capitalises], or Formes[H capitalises] of agreement which might be intended, wee should <H: gather> into a summe breifly those[H? alters] heads of Truth[H capitalises] wherin all Evangellicall Professors[H capitalises] (Thus[H? capitalises] both Lutherans[H capitalises] and Calvinists are usually termed here) have disavowed the Church of Rome and for which they are lawfully separated from the same. This Collection being made & Subcribed by the cheife of the Evangellicall Churches[H capitalises] will be a meanes to to prevent to prevent the treacherous[H alters from treacheros] Plotte[H capitalises] which Papists have in hand wherby they purpose by a deceitfull[altered from deiceitfull] Treatye[H capitalises] of agreement with us in France, and Germanie, and Polonia[H capitalises] to undermine the Truth[H capitalises] of our profesion, and Subdivide more and more the distracted mindes of Evangelicall Professors: For[H capitalises] by a superficiall[H alters] kinde of agreement such[H? alters from Such] as in[H alters from is] Grotius his[H? alters] Treatie against Dr[H capitalises] Rivett is aimed at<H: ,> the Fundamendalls[altered from fumendalls & H capitalises] of our Proffesion both is Doctrine & in practice will bee betrayed: Therfore[H capitalises] to prevent this[H alters] danger
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& to make a begining of some Vnion[H alters from union] amongst[altered from amoungst] the Evangelicals[H alters from Evangelists] if not in respect of their[H alters] privat Controversies[H capitalises] amongst[altered from amoungst] themselves yet in respect[H alters] of their common opposition to Papists, they thinke[H? alters from thinge] it very expedient that a Draught[H capitalises] should be framed of Truths[H capitalises] in opposition to Errours[H capitalises] disclaimed in them wherunto all the Churches[H capitalises] or[H alters from of] at least the cheife Leaders[H capitalises] therof[H alters] on both sides should unanimously beare witnes <H: witnes> that without the exprese acknowledgment therof no agreement with Papists should be condescended[H alters from condisended] unto. This matter of thought worth your[H alters] knowledge that you[H alters] might be pleased[H alters] to take into yowr consideration what furtherance your Kirke can give unto this dessin. The way which yow shall think fittest for your owne and others Edification in Concuring herin; I desire to know by him who is to Minister[H capitalises] of Rotterdam if he be not come over already and if he be come yow may be pleased to addrese <your letters> by him unto me imparting also unto him yowr resolution that we <H: wee> may have occasion to confer of it together[H alters] and <left margin, H: and> to move others in the Low Countrys to joyne in this undertaking<H: ,> which in respect of the matter will be nowaye difficult. For it is Esay <H: easy> to gather and sett in [order? MS torn] all the Truth[H capitalises] wherin Evangelicalls[H capitalises] oppose poperye but [the? MS torn] manner of making Such a draught publike[H alters] in the name of all will be the poynt of difficultie: yett I hope in[H alters] God it will not be such but that it
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may be over come through your assistance Counsell and prayers and the supply of the spirit of Iesus Christ, to whose favourable[H alters] direction & Grace I comend yow and all yowr labours in the Gospell who[altered] am [y?]
                         your most affectionat[H? alters]
                         [and Loving altered] Brother in
                             Christ
                                 Iohn Durye.