Title: | Copy Letter, John Dury To Edward Lane |
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Dating: | 7 July 1651 |
Ref: | 1/32/3A-6B |
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yours which I received by Mr Ellis conveyance <Mr Ellis inclosed to me>, should haue been answered sooner, if he when he sent it to mee had not told me <written> that he was to come to towne & that he would be gladde <at his returne> to bring my answer <back> to you; which <therefore I send> now by him I send to let you <that you may> know that I am very desirous to giue you that satisfaction which as <is due> to a Christian & <a> Brother <unsatisfied> I owe you, & that wherin you think your self unsatisfied at my Epistolicall discourse prefixed to the Clauis Apocalyptica & if I should <could> see any iust cause of a Retraction of any thing <I haue> said there; I hope I should not scruple to expresse it; but truly as yet, I am not made to see this by anything which you haue alledged hitherto you will therefore giue me <leaue> to declare the Truth as it is in my heart unto you which I beseech the Lord so to addresse that wee may <both> reap therby the comfort of mutuall edification.
The first thing whereat you are offended; is that Mr Braine & such as hee seduceth or are seduced with him, make their boast that I agree with them in their opinion concerning the nullitie of a visible Church in these times. you say that I foment them in their errors, & haue giuen them cause to insult & bee [more?] bold in their opposition to you that are contrarie minded. To this let me tell you that in bearing witnes unto the truth so farre as I am inlightened; I looke upon it <the truth> as it is naked in it self, I offer it to all without partiality; I respect not any <no> mans opinion, nor any party, to byas my thoughts to some their <are not byased for any> interests; I corrupt not willingly nor do I deal deceitfully with the word, but I speake my sense therof <of divine matters> as in the sight of God. now if it fall out that any should contrary to my sense wrest, misconstrue or misapply my words to colour <uphold> the errors which I disallow <left margin: & they assert> that is not to bee imputed to me as a fault of mine if that which I assert bee a truth in it self. it is no new thing in men of perverse minds & seducers <& unstable minds> to wrest the truths of God unto their owne destruction as Peter <as the Apostle> saith 2 Peter 3. 16. Christs <were not Christ's> owne words were misconstrued & misapplyed against his true sense? & brought an accusation against him when he spoke of the destroying of the <his> temple in three dayes. [left margin: Rom. 3. 7.] The Apostle Paul complaines that some did slanderously report of his Doctrine, as if he did teach, that men should do euill that good may come <of it>. I shall therefore intreat you to consider that a truth is neuer a whit the lesse receiuable because euill men abuse <it> & peruert <or wrest> the consequences therof <from thence> against the meaning of those that beare witnes therunto. <we see> that in these dayes the soundest & most precious Truths of God are <thus> peruerted taken made the grounds of most abominable errors by the subtilty of Satan. [left margin: 2 Peter 1. 4.] as for this, that wee are made pertakers of the Divine nature Satans instruments [now a dayes?] maintaine, that the soule of man is of the very essence of God; & that the saints are God; & Consequently that they sinne not. &c. & because it is said that God seeth no sinne in Iacob & that the elect are beloued before the foundation of the world they inferre that the elect please God aswell when they sinn & as when they obey his will. & <twentie> such like instances might bee giuen if need were <left margin: concerning the Doctrine of our Iustification; of Predestination, of free grace; of Christian liberty, & of <of outward> ordinances & of the law>. shall therefore the truth of God bee suppressed because men abuse it to confirme their lyes? by no meanes: but but [catchword: their]
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their lyes <should be rather so>
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agree in the same fallacie to misapply the truth of my assertion to a wrongfull conclusion: at least to such a one as is quite contrary to my sense: for I cleerly professe
Thus your first matter of unsatisfaction I hope is cleered; & that you are <made> able to see a mistake in your inference these consequences viz: which both you & Mr Braine draw from my premises. But then in the second place you declare yourselfe unsatisfied in the case come to argue with me, because I say that I expect the bride from heauen; & that it is apparent we haue not yet any permanent Citie on earth such as the Apostle hath described the lambes wife <to bee> Reuel. Ch. 21 & 22. & that I will not allow any societies of Churches or single Congregations to haue receiued the favour of being arrayed in fine linnen cleane & white; which is the Righteousnes of saints; that is, to bee in a true visible perfect Constitution without blame before the world; but I speake my experience, that I haue found & do find them in their seuerall associations to haue the Laodicean temper: that is a kind of popular humour & vulgar disposition to Iustifie themselues before & ouer others. <& in comparison> of others.
Concerning these assertions of mine you argue with me first in Generall, about the perfection which is <now> to bee acknowledged in the Churches then in particular about about the incongruitie of some of my expressions wherin I mention the Churches comming down from heaven & out of the wildernes. to satisfie you in these things I pray consider that <as> I do not deny the true being of a Church in the world nor <so I acknowledge> the perfection of the Constitutiue parts therof as it is in via: I acknowledge also that there is another perfection to come hereafter when Christ shall haue giuen up the Kingdom of his Mediatoriall office, & that wee shall effectually pertake of the <Fathers> loue [left margin: Ioh. 17. 26.] wherewith the father hath <he> loued the son; where I say that loue shall bee in us & Christ in us. then wee shall bee in the full height of perfection wherunto we can bee brought & wherin we shall remaine unto all eternitie; but I conceiue that before we come to this state there shall bee seuerall intermediat degrees of growth which in comparison of the state wherin we now are may be called so many perfections; & this you seem fully to grant when you say that you acknowledge a perfection to come before the Church on Earth be taken up into heauen: this perfection you describe to be in the accomplishment of promises & prophecies of Daniel & of the Reuelation at the Downfall of Antichrist & the calling of the Iewes, which you say will adde much to the splendor & beauty of the Church in the last times, so that heerin you confesse that we & our posterity shall be more happy then those that haue been before us. these are your words wherin you seem to close fully with me, nor do I see wherin you disagree from me otherwise then in your mistake of my meaning when you adde [catchword: but as]
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but as for the want of[altered from if] any other visible perfection, the want of which should make the Lord Christ pronounce Lo-ammi against the Churches (you say) you know none; & if I do you desire me to impart it unto you. here you suppose that I haue said, that the present reformed & orthodox Churches are to bee counted by Christ Lo-ammi by reason of the want of that perfection which is not yet come but in due time shall come. which is an assertion as unreasonable as if I should say that because my child (who shall be in due time a man in stature strenth & iudgment) is now but
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true & full meaning, you may see that your inference concerning our disanulling of the Nationall Couenant upon this account is wholly void: for this consideration of our present & expectation of our future condition, doth bind us so much the more to aduance our promised Reformation according to the word of God & the example of the best Reformed Churches not only in this but in all ages; for although I can see no absolut perfection in any of the Churches, as to that outward state which the Rules of Holy Communion in the word require, yet it doth not follow that wee may dispense with this part of our promise seing the word of God is to bee made a paterne aboue the best reformed Churches, nor is their reformation to bee admitted to be good further then it agreable to the word.
The last thing wherat you are are unsatisfied is concerning the incongruitie of some of my expressions as you call it; as if the Brides coming downe from heauen & comming out of the wildernes of Confusion were matters altogether inconsistent. take notice therefore that in my notion they are so farre from being inconsistent that they are necessary & immediat consequences one of another: for to some downe from heauen is by the spirituall & heauenly frame which of life which is in the Kingdome of Christ, & with which we are not yet fully acquainted, to bee drawen forth unto a state of visible conformitie wholly answerable therunto: for when we are said to bee with Christ in heavenly places, & to haue our conversation in heauen; the meaning is not of a locall heauen but of a heauenly that is spirituall condition of life & state endowed with heauenly properties: I meane then that when the Church that is the visible societie of saints shall on her outward profession appeare truly spirituall, & conformable to the life of saints in heauen, so that the will of God is done here on earth as it is in heauen then that she doth come downe from heauen; for now all her perfection being only in her inward & invisible estate; I conceaue shee is not yet come downe from heauen; nor out of the wildernes: for as long as her visible estate is not apparently descending from heauen, she is as to us in a wildernes of Confusion & disorder. by a wildernes I meane a place wherin there is no habitation, or frame of a citie, or orderly constitution of settlement for humane societies: & I conceiue that the outward present face of the profession, as it is apparent now amongst those that call themselues Christians [left margin: Psal. 122. 3.] is not like any citie compacted together; but rather like seuerall flockes of sheep scattered & wandering here & there upon seuerall mountaines, exposed to the danger of all manner of rauenous beasts; now I say that Christ will seeke out his scattered sheep upon these mountaines & find them both of the Iewes & Gentiles which wander up & downe in uncertainties & desolate places, & will make them both one flocke, & in one fold will settle them under his owne ordinances & then they shall bee truly said to come out of the wildernes & also come downe from heauen
Thus I haue endeuoured to cleer those things wherat you haue stumbled in my preface; nor do I know any thing materiall wherat you are further unsatisfied which may not nee cleered by that which hath been said; for as to this last point; if you take this present euill world, & the confusions & disorders which are therin; [letter deleted?] wherin the saints are, in respect of their spirituall life <as> in desolate places; I say if you take this present state of humane affaires in the world to bee a wildernes in comparison to the Citie of God the heauenly Ierusalem which is the mother of us all, then you shall not need to bee filled with horror & amazement to heare [catchword: that]
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that our present condition is a wildernes of Confusion & desolation: for if it bee not so; I pray you show me where the citie of God which hath foundations is <visibly> apparent
Let this bee our worke & wee need not doubt but that wee shall see [catchword: Ierusalem]
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Ierusalem a quiet habitation & a tabernacle that shall not bee taken downe; a state wherof none of the stakes & constitutions [left margin: Isa. 33. 20.] shall euer bee remoued; nor shall any of the lords therof (the obligations & relations under which wee shall stand) euer be broken. Now when & where & how &
your Louing freind & Seruant
Iuly. 7th in Christ
1651. Iohn Dury.
Inscription
For his Reuerend & Louing Brother in
Christ Mr. Edward Lane.
these bee presented