That upon the fifth day of November arlate this deponent being in company in the house of John Nichols (in the parish arlate) with several of the company of shoemakers and there happening some discourse of religion betwixt the arlate Sutton and some others of the company particularly about Alderman Wilcock's book this deponent did hear the said Sutton in a very hot and peremptory manner say and declare that all men that went to the church (naming and meaning the Church of England) were damned.
That upon the fifth day of November arlate several persons or members of the company of shoemakers... were in the evening together at John Nichols his house in the parish arlate drinking a glass of ale together when there happened some discourse about matters of religion betwixt the defendant and one Hugh Rhodes, and they grew warm upon it, so they questioned each other whether they were for the Church or the stable. And likewise the book written by Alderman Wilcock and a book said to be written by Mr Henry the preacher at the stable were mentioned by them in their discourse. And the defendant asking the said Rhodes what Church he was of the said Rhodes answered he was of the Church of England to which the defendant Sutton replied that all who went to the Church (meaning as this deponent believes the Church of England) were damned or to that purpose.